From: "Kieran Dyke" Subject: Re: 1C,1D,1H, ? Date: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:27 AM "Nick Hughes" wrote in message news:O_aYd.192857$K7.142245@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > "Roger Clough" wrote in message > news:fiuu21tcj5rpbhg92jpaufb396pd1ev4ua@4ax.com... > > What should be the meanings of 2C and 2H bids by 4th seat? > > > > My regular partner and I play that had the bidding gone 1C,P,1H than both > > 2hearts and 2 > > clubs are natural since we have takeout doubles and sandwich nt available > > for the other 2 > > suits. > > > > I agree it's good to have 2C natural but we don't, because 1NT should be > natural these days - 15-18. The sandwich notrump for takeout made sense 20 > years ago when they almost always had at least 12+6 HCP. These days, opener > could hava a bit less and responder a lot less so pairs appear to be > switching back to 1NT natural. That's the impression I get. Any > confirmation? > > Nick, Sydney > Count me in. I used to play 1NT as a sandwich thing, but with people opening 10-counts and responding with 4-counts it's important to put the high card games into the picture. Tiggrr > > > Does the diamond overcall change the meanings of the 2H and 2C bids? > > > > If so, is 2H a strong diamond raise or showing stopper for NT? Same > > quesion with regard > > to 2C? > > 2H still natural, 2C still a cue raise, double = Snapdragon (typically 5 > spades & 3 diamonds) >